Skip to main content

tv   MSNBC Live  MSNBC  May 23, 2017 11:00am-12:01pm PDT

11:00 am
it is the top of th hr and we are following several developing stories here on msnbc. first, intel and intrigue. the russia probe intensifies on capitol hill as two chiefs, one former and one present, testify about whether president trump pressured intelligence officials to push back on the russia probe. >> on this topic, as well as other topics, i don't feel it is appropriate to characterize discussions and conversations with the president. >> this is dangerously flirting with obstruction of justice. >> did you see evidence of collusion, coordination, conspiracy between donald trump and russian state actors? >> i saw information and intelligence that was worthy of investigation by the bureau to
11:01 am
determine whether or not such cooperation or collusion was taking place. >> but our word of the day -- losers. that's what the president used, not to describe his democratic critics this time but terrorists who carried out britain's deadliest attack in more than a decade. >> so many young, beautiful, innocent people living and enjoying their lives murdered by evil losers in life. i won't call them monsters. because they would like that term. they would think that's a great name. i will call them, from now on, losers because that's what they are. they're losers. and there are new breaking details emerging in that story. the man who detonated a suicide bomb at pop star ariana grande's concert in manchester has now
11:02 am
been entified. police are working to determine whether he acted alone. our team of reporters and analysts are standing by to cover all of these headlines. we've got nbc's kasie hunt at capitol hill. we've got ken delaney, an intelligence and national security reporter for nbc news, for the nbc news investigative unit. we also have ned price and navee jamali. kasie, what stood out this morning from the testimony of this morning? >> i think the most interesting information we found in that hearing with john brennan -- now of course most of what he said has been reported in the press, but it was pretty remarkable that brennan said it on record as the former cia director, of course outlining that he believes that trump associates talked to -- at least had contacts with russian officials. now he said that at the -- that there was at the point that he
11:03 am
left the administration, there was still no evidence necessarily of collusion, and that of course was kind of the main focus many times throughout this hearing. take a look at congressman trey gowdy pressing brennan on this question. >> did you see evidence of collusion, coordination, conspiracy between donald trump and russian state actors? >> i saw information and intelligence that was worthy of investigation by the bureau to determine whether or not such cooperation or collusion was taking place. >> that doesn't help us a lot. what was the nature of the information? >> as i said, mr. gowdy, i think this committee now has access to the type of information that i'm alluding to here. it is classified and i'm happy to talk about it in classified session. >> tha would have been directly between the candidate and russian state actors? >> that's not what i said. i'm not going to talk about any individuals. >> you can get a sense, of
11:04 am
course, just how combustible this issue is of course on capitol hill. now on the other side of the hill, that was with members of the house. on the senate side, you had director rogers speaking of course about what we have been hearing in the last 24 hours, those reports that he was potentially in contact with president trump, dni coats as well, director of national intelligence, and that there was a request that they intervene once that fbi investigation, the existence of it became public. coats declined to comment on that saying he didn't want to comment on personal conversations with the president, it wasn't an appropriate forum. but he was pressed on it by john mccain, a republican, who of course has been willing to be critical of this administration, especially on this topic. he and senator lindsey graham particularly hawkish on issues related to russia. >> kasie, let's hear that sound of john mccain. >> i have always believed that given the nature of my position
11:05 am
and the information which we share, it is not appropriate for me to comment publicly on any of that, and so on this topic, as well as other topics, i don't feel it is appropriate to characterize discussions, conversations with the president. >> for our viewers, that is obviously not john mccain. that's director of intelligence dan coats. ken, we're learning a whole lot more than we knew before. just cut through the fat for us because we've had a lot of testimonies, and sometimes all of this information can seem to jumble into one big blob. >> so bottom li, john brennan gave us a road map for how this fbi investigation got started. said very clearly that he was aware of contacts between trump associates and russians. he was disturbed by it. he passed that information on to the fbi. we know the fbi then began investigating. i found that revealing. i also found it a little bit infuriating. not in a partisan sense but as a reporter. i, like all of my colleagues were trying to learn everything
11:06 am
we could back before the election about what the russians were doing and their hacking and interference campaign and whether there were any ties to russia. it is now clear the u.s. intelligence community and the obama administration knew a lot more than they let on. >> i remember this bubbling up back in the summer, especially around the time of the democratic national convention. once those dnc e-mails were coming out, donald trump of course from that infamous news conference saying that he hopes russia is going to release the e-mails if they have them, find them, he wanted to see them, clinton's e-mails. why did we not know more about it then? what was the reasoning behind keeping it -- keeping the cards close to the vest? >> my reporting tells me that the obama administration was very concerned about appearing to put their thumb on the scale in an election they were convinced hillary clinton was going to win. they were also very concerned that the russians would go further and actually interfere with the vote. that's what they were most concerned about stopping. that didn't happen in the end. >> brennan said he spoke to the
11:07 am
russian officials and he warned them. he said, if you keep interfering, there will be severe consequences, relations with the u.s. will be severely hurt. does that seem like it is happening now? >> i mean this is the russians' dream scenario. they have completely disrupted our democracy. we're tied in knots over this issue. i just want to remind you, too, harry reid, former senate majority leader, wrote a letter back in october to brennan saying you possess explosive information about ties between trump and russia. many people kind of wrote that off. >> because people didn't necessarily know what he was talking about and youhought maybe harry reid was may an outgoing senator and who knows at his motivations were at the time. i remember that's the feeling everyone had. >> turns out he was exactly right. nbc news has also confirmed that "washington post" report that president trump asked two intel officials to push back on the russia probe by nbc news, i mean ken dlelaneyian was the on who confirmed that.
11:08 am
now to the reports of requests from coats and general rogers. >> my goal is to not judge things based on newspaper reports but dig and find facts. >> is that obstruction of justice to you? >> i can't characterize the legal, but obviously a president is not supposed to influence an fbi investigation. so draw your own conclusion. >> with me now, ned price, national security council spokesperson and senior director under president obama. and an msnbc national security analyst. we also have naveed jamali, an nba double agent. ned, we were just talking about the fbi not releasing that intelligence. why was this not made more public or a bigger deal made of this especially considering this was a foreign power trying to interfere in the election? why didn't voters have a chance
11:09 am
to know about that before they went to the polls? >> i'd actually dispute the premise of your question. voters did have an opportunity to know it. >> did they know it -- did they know the significance of it? were they really forcefully made aware of it by u.s. officials? >> well, katy, we can only do so much. i'll tell you what we did. on october 7th there was an unprecedented statement released by the dni and department of homeland security that made very clear the fact that we had information leading us to believe with high confidence on the part of all 17 intelligence agencies that russia was involved in this effort, sanctioned at the highest levels of the russian government, to interfere in our electoral process. to let you know how we got there, it is very important that you follow a formula in cases like this. and that formula first rests upon the intelligence community coming to this high-confidence assessment. you want that information to be bulletproof because you know it will be asailed in all directions if it is not. second you have to ensure that the intelligence community and
11:10 am
law enforcement community verify the fact that this information can be released without jeopardizing sources or methods or impinging upon law enforcement investigations. this process is not one that is quick. it is one that can take some time, but we got there, more than a full month ahead of the election. the other interesting thing about that day, katy, october 7th, 2016, that is the same day that the "access hollywood" tape came out and that led to a media bonanza that covered that almost exclusively. so when you ask why we didn't do more, some of this was taken out of our hands by the media coverage. >> fair point, ned. although there is critics out there who would say that -- would wonder why the administration didn't more forcefully go out and try to really raise red flags about that reporting. putting that aside for a moment -- and that did happen on the "access hollywood" day, you're absolutely right. what stuck out to you most, ned, about brennan's testimony? >> well, i think what struck me most about director brennan,
11:11 am
former director brennan's testimony, was as you were describing, what he said about his impression of these links between not just u.s. citizens but americans associated with the trump campaign and unidentified russians. thinkt was interesting especially that it was a republic, trey gowdy, of south carolina, who was really goading him on this question. i think it is pretty clear that congressman gowdy was trying to set a trap. he was trying to get director brennan to either say there was no evidence of collusion, no information pointing to collusion whatsoever, or to breach his solemn obligation not to introduce classified information in front of public testimony. and it was interesting to note that director brennan, time and again, reminded congressman gowdy that his own committee had this classified information. so congressman gowdy was actually asking for things that his staff had in an effort to lay this trap that i think director brennan avoided very effectively. >> naveed, how does this affect
11:12 am
the investigation going forward? >> that's a good question. look, what we heard brennan say very clearly to ned's point is, to footstorm the idea there is a connection between the intelligence and the investigation. look, intelligence looks over the horizon. the job of intelligence officers is not to determine criminality or to investigate. in fact, especially when it comes to u.s. persons. so i think what was most interesting about that is exactly what ned said. the fact that brennan confirmed that he in fact -- or the cia in fact had intelligence that rose to the level that brought them concern, concern enough to walk over and give this to the fbi and say this is something you should look into, and that is in fact what started this investigation. so i think what we're starting to start seeing in respect to what ned said earlier, look, i have to say from an intelligence perspective, for counterintelligence perspective, this was a failure. what we are learning today we should have learned back in august. the decisionmaker was not a
11:13 am
combatant commander but the decisionmaker was the voter. this illustrates this was a 9/10/2001 intelligence failure and it needs to be looked at. >> to say this investigation started with a person, a u.s. person, and not necessarily that they were doing anything wrong but that there were conversations that were enough to make the fbi start the investigation. naveed, clearly that's getting you a little riled up. ned price, appreciate it as well. thank you both. next we go live to manchester, zblaenengland. investigators have revealed who carried out last night's attack at a concert filled with teens and their parents as we begin to learn more about the 22 lives lost. a short time ago manchester officials confirmed emotions are raw but urged residents to put aside their anger. >> it is vital in diverse communities to make manchester such a strong place actually stand together and support each other. millions of people who suffer from lower back pain
11:14 am
finding relief can seem almost as painful. finally the search is over. drug-free aleve direct therapy®. a tens device with high intensity power that uses technology once only available in doctors' offices. its smart wireless design lets you control its intensity for deep penetrating relief at the source. the power of relief is in your hands. aleve direct therapy. find yours in the pain relief aisle. "how to win at business." step one: point decisively with the arm of your glasses. abracadabra. the stage is yours. step two: choose la quinta. the only hotel where you can redeem loyalty points for a free night-instantly and win at business.
11:15 am
that goes beyond assuming beingredients are safe...ood to knowing they are. going beyond expectations... because our pets deserve it. beyond. natural pet food.
11:16 am
11:17 am
to deliberately target innocent children is cowardice in its most heinous fo. so we should not be surprised that isis has claimed reonsibility for this attack. i went to all my concerts growing up at the coliseum in madison, just like our kids do that now. i can't get the picture of this 8-year-old girl out of my head right now. >> that was house speaker paul ryan reacting to last night's
11:18 am
attack on a manchester arena, an attack that's being called the deadliest terror assault in britain since 2005. a reported 22 people were killed and 59 others injured after a suicide bomb detonated at the end of pop star ariana grande's concert. the islamic state says one of its soldiers -- quote soldiers carried out the attack and the suspect has been named. greater manchester police identify him as 22-year-old salman abedi who was carrying a british passport. victims and witnesses described the terrifying moments following the blast. >> it was just a real loud bang. we had no idea what it was. >> there was a massive loud bang and i just looked up to where i heard it coming from and people were screaming and literally jumping out of their seats. >> once we exited the door there was blood spattered on the floor. >> last hour the royal family
11:19 am
observed a moment of silence at buckingham palace in honor of the victims of the attack. for the latest on the investigation and an update on victims we turn to msnbc's matt bradley and kelly o'donnell who's in jerusalem. the president was in the middle east when he learned of the attack and has now landed in italy. matt, start with you. there was a police raid just last hour. we saw video of it from our sister network, itn. what can you tell us about what officers were doing there? we can see them right now in s.w.a.t. gear. >> katy, i'm trying to gather as much as you are as nbc news is looking into it. our understanding is that this raid was in fact connected to this attack that happened at the arena behind me last night. this was part of an effort to actually execute 1 of 2 warrants that manchester police have issued today. the first one resulted in the arrest of a 23-year-old male who was arrested in southwest
11:20 am
birmingham earlier this morning. he actually is now in custody. again, this raid, this one where there was actually some detonation was fired to clear the area, this was done to execute yet another arrest warrant. it is not quite clear if anyone was arrested in this very dramatic video footage that you have. but the investigation is still going at pace. as you mentioned, islamic state has claimed responsibility for this attack. but it is not quite clear whether that would be something that we can take as a legitimate claim. there were some contradictions within the claim where islamic state said that there were multiple bombs and police have found only one bomb that was detonated. but still, this city is moving forward. there's been a lot of talk of resilience here. actually, manchester, despite being the second city in britain, it is no stranger to terrorism. 20 years ago there was a massive irish republican army bomb that leveled multiple city blocks but
11:21 am
only injured hundreds of people. it didn't actually kill anyone. but there's been a lot of talk of resilience in this city, as i mentioned. i was just walking around the corner this morning to a hotel where there were dozens an dozens of young women who clearly were still wearing their ariana grande t-shirts and they were watching the footage on the bbc with tears in theirize. a lot of talk about fortitude but some very obvious displays of fragility here. >> matt, what do we know about the victims? >> well, only two of the victims have formally been named by the police. again, this is just another devastating part of this story, katy. there are some 59 reported to be injured, of the 22 killed, two have been named, the youngest being an 8-year-old girl. she was apparently a big fan. she was here with her mother and i believe with her sister who are both in hospital and still
11:22 am
trying to get through some injuri that they had. the older one, she was something of a super fan, had been photographed with ariana grande in the past. so again, this is just a terrible event, devastating really just very young lives. >> the names of those victims, saffie roussos, who was 8 years old. georgina callander, 18 years old. many of the 59 injured were children. president trump reacted to this while he was still in israel while he was meeting with the palestinian leader, pmahmoud abbas. give us a sense of how the white house is reacting. >> reporter: this is a realtime example of part of the president's mission overseas, to try to talk to the muslim world and urge countries to do more to stop financing and recruitment of those who might become lone wolves or might be influenced by
11:23 am
groups like the islamic state. in some ways it was a tragic example of what the president really came to talk about with many leaders in this part of the world. he was with mahmoud abbas when he made his first statements today. as the president also did when he was referring to the use of chemical weapons in syria, he emphasized the children who were among those killed as a way to sort of convey his own personal horror and shock and to urge everyone to take action on this and to not tolerate this kind of act. what the president did was to also not only bring th thematic ideas that wer a part of his trip, but he referred to the perpetrators saying he would not call them monsters. he had a different word for them. here is how the president described this. >> so many young, beautiful, innocent people living and enjoying their lives, murdered by evil losers in life.
11:24 am
>> reporter: calling them losers. and that is something that sounds like donald trump and is also a message he says he will use from this time forward, to use that kind of terminology. as i mentioned, that focus on the children who are lost in the tragedy like this is one way where donald trump who often presents that strong exterior, we don't always see the comforter in chief. but with the examples of children both in syria and again today we saw that side of donald trump trying to express his condolences and concern when he was here in israel and as you mentioned, has now moved on to rome. >> kelly o'donnell and matt bradley, thanks very much. as the deluge of dramas on capitol hill, lawmakers are chewing over the president's proposed budget, a budget that could ultimately hurt the very people who voted for him. i'll also speak live with congressman eric swallwell who
11:25 am
questioned john brennan about russia's hacking role in our election. (bell rings) with my moderate to severe crohn's disease,... ...i kept looking for ways to manage my symptoms. i thought i was doing okay... then it hit me... ...managing was all i was doing. when i told my doctor,... ...i learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease... ...even after trying other medications. in clinical studies,... the majority of people on humira... saw significant symptom relief... ...and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability... ...to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened;... ...as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where...
11:26 am
...certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb,... ...hepatitis b, are prone to infections,... ...or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. just managing your symptoms? ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. oscar mawe went back toig the drawing board... and e cutting board. we removed the a nits and nitrites, by-products, and artificial preservatives in all of our meat. every. single. one. why? for the love of hot dogs.
11:27 am
11:28 am
i'm katy tur with a look at today's headlines at the half. we begin with the terror
11:29 am
attack in manchester after an arianna grande concert last night. police have now identified the suicide bomber as 22-year-old salman abeti. now they are working to determine whether he acted alone. government officials say abedi who is of libyan decent. turning to washington, the white house unveiled the president's 2018 budget proposal this morning. programs from the poor from health care to foot stamps face major cuts under the president's plan. also in the proposal, $1.6 billion to begin building his border wall. on capitol hill today, the russia probe took center stage before two congressional committees. ex-cia chief john brennan testified before the house intel committee. he said this about russia's efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. >> it should be clear to everyone that russia brazenly interfered in our 2016 presidential election process and that they undertook these
11:30 am
activities despite our strong protests and explicit warning that they not do so. congressman eric swalwell, one of the lawmakers who questioned former cia director brennan today joins me now from capitol hill. congressman, thank you very much. did you learn what you needed to learn today from brennan? >> we did. in both an open and closed session. but you know, katy, something that was so chilling to hear was that he had given a warning to russia to stop its meddling, otherwise they would suffe consequences, he id. and then to look just back about a week and a half ago on may 10th when donald trump had in the oval office russia's foreign minister and its ambassador to the united states. that certainly did not look like any consequences were suffered. so to contrast the warning that the director gave, and now the way that russia's being embraced by this white house is very disturbing. >> do you feel the public had enough information about the russia investigation before the election? >> well, no. i think that we could have had a
11:31 am
lot more. i understand there was a concern about not wanting to influence the election, but russia's interference campaign was a successful one. and so i think that we could have taken more measures early on. but another theme that i took away from director brennan's testimony was that there were contacts of concern. he described that there were so many contacts that he had seen and that his agents and officers had seen between donald trump's campaign and russia that he passed it over to the fbi. and he also said that in his history as an intelligence officer, he had not seen any contacts like this before between a foreign adversary and -- between a foreign adversary and a presidential campaign. >> didn't he say, though, that there were new technologies out there so he couldn't necessarily say that that definitive that he had never seen anything like that before? that's what i heard him say. >> the new technologies certainly allow us to better yur
11:32 am
understand threats that we nas and al face and also for him to assess that. there is a lot more thread to pull and leads to chase and that's what we are charged with on this committee. >> what threads and what leads, congressman? >> sure. this is one aspect, what the cia observed in the reports that they passed over to e fbi. we also want to understand just who went over to russia during the time of the campaign, what communications did trump officials have with russians in the united states, and outside the united states, and also what was the president's involvement at the time. we hope to get to the bottom of that. it is too early to draw any conclusions, so hopefully there is another public hearing so that this information is eliminated. >> california congressman, eric swalwell, democratic member of the house intel committee. thank you very much. candidate donald trump vowed to protect entitlement programs on the day he announced he was running for president. >> save medicare, medicaid and
11:33 am
social security without cuts. have to do it. get rid of the fraud, get rid of the waste and abuse. but save it. >> but president trump's first budget proposal seems to renege on that promise. in fact, it would arguably hurt many of the voters who helped him win the white house in 2016 as nbc's "first read" points out. some members of his own party are already suggesting the budget is a no-go. >> senator,ky a can i ask you a the president's budget? is it dead on arrival? >> yes. and the commitment to rebuilding the military cannot be fulfilled when there is this level of spending. >> well, yes, definitely dead on arrival. this budget if fully implemented would require us to retreat from the world diplomatically or put people at risk. you have a lot off benghazis in the making if this became law. >> i'm joined by nbc anchor and business correspondent, alley
11:34 am
velshi. break down this budget for us. >> $4.1 trillion budget taking effect on october 1st. you usually see a budget proposal in the spring from the white house, gets bandied about for a while. these are the priorities outlined. u.s. military, border security and law enforcement over ten years which is the way i like to look at a budget. we are talking about a $500 billion increase to these areas. this number is relevant because the cuts in this budget are going to total $3.3 trillion. the losers, medicaid programs. when president trump said we're not touching medicaid -- not true. medicaid's going to be a big loser here. so are a lot of welfare programs. s.n.a.p., the food stamp program and a lot of other non-defense spending. $3.3 trillion in cuts versus $5.5 million in increases. the gain that the -- that they're hoping to win on this
11:35 am
one is that they get to a balanced budget in ten years. the idea that in a yearly basis, the revenues you bring in from taxes are equal to the amount that you spend. the way we're going to get there is with spending cuts which we've seen in this budget, slashing taxes. we vnts seen a full tax proposal yet. we've just seen a one-page bullet pointed thing. and repeal of obamacare, largely because there are a lot of cuts to medicaid and things that go into obamacare. here's the mystery though. mick mulvan, the budget chief, says they hope to gethe 3% growth as a result of these things. that math don't really work out. we're at 2% growth right now so this would be a 50% increase in the rate at which the economy is growing. that is very, very, very, very hard to achieve, not sure we're going to get there. but that's the goal because president trump, as you know from the campaign, promised not just 3% but there were times he said 4%, 5% or 6% growth. clearly the administration doesn't discuss 4%, 5% or 6%
11:36 am
anymore since donald trump's been elected. >> they definitely have ajustdjd those numbers. ali velshi, thank you very much. next up, an in-depth look at the attack in the uk and how we can prevent similar attacks on american soil. that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance..." through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald's helps more people go to college. it's part of our commitment to being america's best first job. ♪ wiback like it could used to? neutrogena hydro boost water gel. with hyaluronic acid it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. for supple, hydrated skin. hydro boost. from neutrogena
11:37 am
we're not professional athletes. but that doesn't mean we're giving up. i'm in this for me. for me. along with diet and exercise, farxiga helps lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. lowering a1c by up to 1.2 points. do not take if allergic to farxiga. if you experience symptoms of a serious allergic reaction ch as rash, swelling, difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking and seek medical help right away. do not take farxiga if you have severe kidney problems, are on dialysis, or have bladder cancer. tell your doctor right away if you have blood or red color in your urine or pain while you urinate. farxiga can cause serious side effects including dehydration, genital yeast infections in women and men, serious urinary tract infections, low blood sugar, and kidney problems. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have signs of ketoacidosis, which is serious and may lead to death. i'm in this for my family. i'm in this for me. ask your doctor about farxiga and learn how you can get it for free. if you can't afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help.
11:38 am
♪ ♪ nothing performs like a tempur-pedic. and now is the best time to buy one. now through june 11th, save $600 when you buy select tempur-pedic mattress sets. find your exclusive retailer at tempurpedic.com.
11:39 am
rumor confirmed. they're playing. -what? -we gotta go. -where? -san francisco. -when? -friday. we gotta go. [ tires screech ] any airline. any hotel. any time. go where you want, when you want with no blackout dates. [ muffled music coming from club. "blue monday" by new order. cheers. ] [ music and cheers get louder ] the travel rewards credit card from bank of america. it's travel, better connected. the assault on concertgoers at britain's manchester arena highlights a new trend in terror. experts say areas just outside
11:40 am
of security checkpoints are increasingly becoming vulnerable to attacks. authorities believe the man behind last night's blast detonated a device near one of the arena's exits bypassing security and maximizing the number of victims by waiting for crowds to exit. this as questions about the concert security to begin with surface. >> we never got checked. we entered the venue. a few people that we spoke to like friends that we met before and after the gig, they said their gs weren't checked or anything like that. >> nbc's stephanie gosk is live in the crossroads of the world, new york's times square. stephanie, just the other week we saw that car ram a bunch of people by going the wrong way on a sidewalk. talk to me about what people call a soft target. what does that mean? and why are they increasingly at risk? >> reporter: well, a couple of different things. a soft target can be a place
11:41 am
that's just not considered at high risk for a terrorist attack. someone's backyard might be a soft target. but there are other soft targets like times square is a good example that are just simply logistically too difficult to protect with maximum security. you couldn't on a normal day set up magnetometers in times square and make everyone go through them. it just wouldn't work. then the way to protect places like that really boils down to two things. you have intelligence, probably the most important, trying to detect through all the means that we have at our disposal if someone's trying to plan something, and then the second thing is to mitigate the risk by considering what could possibly be a type of attack. then there is a good example here in times square. if you look at that video of that car, that incident which was not linked to terrorism from last week, that car was stopped because it actually hit these small steel posts that were put in last year. they were put in to protect from
11:42 am
terrorist attacks, people driving vehicles into crowds of people. in that case you saw it. those small, kind of minimal looking steel bollards, they are called, actually stopped that car and prevented that attack from being much worst than it could have been. >> but stephanie, not everything can be protected by those steel bollards. what are police departments like the nypd doing in order to stop this thing before it happens and can they ultimately stop everything? do they know that? >> well, they say they can't. right? but they do have lots of things at their disposal. one thing that you hear security people talk about all the time after an attack like this is just public vigilance. people on the street looking for things that just don't seem to make sense. then of course you have your counterterrorism teams and bomb sniffing dogs that are out here as well. >> nbc's stiephanie gosk in new york's times square. we are getting new reaction
11:43 am
to the attack from president obama on twitter. our hearts go out to those killed and wounded in manchester. americans will always stand shoulder to shoulder with the people of the uk. hillary clinton tweeted outraged and angry about this cowardly attack on a crowd of young people. sending sympathy and strength to the victims and people of mamplg st manchester. bill clinton tweeted as well. senseless and vicious attacks of terror cannot drive us apart and will always be met with people of strength. tara, from the looks of this according to the conversations i've been having on air, this doen doesn't look like a very sophisticated attack. is that more concerning? >> it doesn't look sophisticated in general in that it wasn't coordinated with lots of moving part but it is more sophisticated than the attacks we've seen previously. the attacks we've seen with knives or cars are very crude, low sophistication attack. in this case there was a bomb that had to have been built. we don't know the forensics of
11:44 am
the type of bomb yet, but a suicide bomber was probably trained in some capacity either online through contact with a terrorist group or direct training. we don't know that yet though we have some sense of who this individual was, we don't know his context to isis or other groups. isis has issued a claim, so they are claiming the attack. but again, it wasn't a highly coordinated attack with a larger cell or doesn't so many like there were multiple parts to this. but it is more sophisticated than some of the ot taattack yo seen for example like the westminster bridge attack. >> what from your knowledge are intelligence agencies across the world doing right now in order to find out as much as they can about this bomber? >> sure. there are probably two parts to the investigation. there's on the ground, on the scene, looking at forensics of the bomb itself to see if it matches with other types of bombs that are used. what is it a hydrogen peroxide bomb, materials that could be
11:45 am
easily obtained but also require some explosives training to make a successful bomb. then the other part of the investigation is going to really dive in to this individual's background, his coacts, his social media use, perhaps, his e-mails, his phone calls, who was he in touch with, were there other individuals that were part of this plot in assisting assen as an accomplice at the stadium that evening. the most important part of this investigation right now for british authorities is to make sure nothing else is being planned in coordination or in conjunction with this attack. >> this was an attack on young girls and family members coming out of a concert. how does this affect the propaganda message coming out of isis? they're not targeting adults. they're targeting young girls. >> you raise a really interesting point. hopefully one of the things that hopefully we can get out of this is perhaps it will turn potential recruits away from
11:46 am
joining when they see. we sometimes see terrorist groups undergo fissures because there are debates about the type of attacks. many of their propaganda materials are easily and ready available on social media platforms. this is a really integral part of this problem. the technology companies really need to start cracking down on getting this content off their platforms because in a lot of these cases -- we don't know here, but investigators will look into it. in a lot of these cases these individuals become exposed to content online. they are radicalized through contact with isis, individuals online, and their materials online. the fbi has said that they've seen the flash to bang time in these cases shorten, which means the time of exposure to radical content to the time of the attack we are seeing condense. that makes it a lot more difficult for law enforcement to intervene. >> wow. 22 people dead, 12 of them were
11:47 am
children. so far, two have been identified and one ofhem was an 8-year-old girl. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. hollywood is remembering the longest serving james bond. actor roger moore passed away today in switzerland after a brief battle with cancer. from "the spy who loved me," for "a view to kill," he redefined the role of oo 7 starting with his first bond flick in 1972. as tributes pour in for the 89-year-old, a look back at what made him one of the most memorable agents with "a license to kill." >> the lady will have a bacardi on the rocks. >> for the gentleman, vodka marti martini, shaken, not stirred. >> touche'. >> forgive me, father, for i have sinned. >> that's putting it mildly, 007. >> my name's bond. james bond. ♪"all you need is love" plays my friends know me so well.
11:48 am
they can tell what i'm thinking, just by looking in my eyes. but what they didn't know was that i had dry, itchy eyes. i used artificial tears from the moment i woke up... ...to the moment i went to bed. so i finally decided to show my eyes some love,... ...some eyelove. eyelove means having a chat with your eye doctor about your dry eyes because if you're using artificial tears often and still have symptoms, it could be chronic dry eye. it's all about eyelove, my friends. if you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and a high risk for fracture... i can te you prolia® is proven to help protect bones from fracture. but the real proof? my doctor said prolia® helped my bones get stronger. are your bones getting stronger? do not take prolia® if you have low blood calcium, are pregnant, are allergic to it, or take xgeva®. serious allergic reactions, like low blood pressure; trouble breathing; throat tightness; face, lip, or tongue swelling; rash; itching or hives have happened. tell your doctor about dental problems, as severe jaw bone problems may happen,
11:49 am
or new or unusual pain in your hip, groin or thigh, as unusual thigh bone fractures have occurred. speak to your doctor before stopping prolia®, as spine and other bone fractures have occurred. prolia® can cause serious side effects, like low blood calcium; serious infections, which could need hospitalization skin problems; and severe bone, joint or muscle pain. only prolia® helps strengthen and protect bones with 2 shots a year. i have proof prolia® works for me. ask your doctor about prolia® today. parts a and b and want more coverage, guess what? you could apply for a medicare supplement insurance plan whenever you want. no enrollment window. no waiting to apply. that means now may be a great time to shop for an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company.
11:50 am
medicare doesn't cover everything. and like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, these help cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. so don't wait. call now to request your free decision guide. it could help you find the aarp medicare supplement plan that works for you. these types of plans have no networks, so you get to choose any doctor who accepts medicare patients. rates are competitive, and they're the only plans of their kind endorsed by aarp. remember - these plans let you apply all year round. so call today. because now's the perfect time to learn more. go long.
11:51 am
but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... which adds fuel to my bottom line. what's in your wallet? the entire thing has been a witch hunt and there is no collusion between certainly myself and my campaign, but i can always speak for myself and the russians.
11:52 am
zero. >> he may believe it's a witch hunt, but it looks like president trump 1 take being is russian investigation pretty seriously. they are putting together outside counsel and there are reports cory lewandowski and david bossie may be brought on as, quote, crisis managers. let's go to robert cost take a a journalist behind that report and somebody who knows the trump team inside and out. talk to us about how an out side legal docounsel would work in ts scenario. >> as someone put to me, the president is looking for a large team of lawyers to help him navigate some of the thorny legal issues that crop up not just with the special counsel in the federal probe, but also the congressional committees. the white house counsel, his lawyer, inside of the west wing won't be responsible for dealing with with the onslaught of injuries and questions about these issues.
11:53 am
>> so if he's hiring an outside counsel, does that -- is that an admission from the white house that they are taking this investigation seriously despite what the president is tweeting? >> i think in certain ways an admission. it's also an acknowledgement of reality that they are facing major issues on the horizon about all these things. and they have to turn not just to the long time trump lawyer, abo but the the big name lawyers to come into understan tinto under litigation process, who have worked with congressional committees, not just real estate lawyers, and try to help president trump beyond don mcgahn figure this all out. >> who is paying for this? >> that is a great question. we've seen in the past presidents have turned to outside counsel and used different fundraising apparatus as a way ever providing money for those groups. the president may have to raise
11:54 am
money to support this initiative or he may have to use his own money. >> how is the president himself reacting to the investigation right now, any idea how he reacted even today to the testimony from john brennan? >> i do know based on my reporting with my colleague that the president has personally met and spoken with several of the candidates to be on his outside legal team. so you have the president personally involved with the search process for outside counsel. that is a signal that he takes it seriously. >> and the white house obviously has been pushing back on the russia investigation and there is talk about leaks at the white house, a coms team not doing an adequately job reportedly and now reports that cory might be coming back? how will he plug the hole? >> well, from what i've told from a couple people close to the president trump, cory lewandowski in spite of his lobbying work and his long past with the campaign, he is actually still a con iffi
11:55 am
actually still a con iffdant to trump, has been at the white house several times. but more than likely he remains in an outside role working as an adviser or even just a friend to the predent to help on the political side >> how do the kids feel about this? sf. >> i'm told that ivanka and jared, her husband, both senior advisers, are not exactly chummy with cory lewandowski. and i don't think that they are pushing to have him come back. but cory lewandowski does remain a friend of the president. so in spite of the concerns among some about in the white house, he xoo still hacould sti role inside or outside. >> and ivanka, jared, dorn, all were the reason why cory -- part of the reason why cory lewandowski got pushed out or were behind the pushing out. bob, thank you very much. ready or not, here i come. ♪
11:56 am
anyone can dream. making it a reality is the hard part. northrop grumman command and control systems always let you see the complete picture. and we're looking for a few dreamers to join us. manait's a series of is nsmart choices. and when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to help minimize blood sugar spikes you can really feel it. glucerna. everyday progress. take 5, guys. tired of your bladder always cutting into your day? you may have overactive bladder, or oab. that's it! we really need to get with the program and see the doctor. take charge and ask your doctor about myrbetriq (mirabegron) for oab symptoms of urgency, frequency and leakage. it's the first and only oab treatment in its class.
11:57 am
myrbetriq may cause serious allergic reactions. if you experience swelling of the face, lips, throat or tongue, or difficulty breathing, stop taking myrbetriq and tell your doctor right away. myrbetriq may increase blood pressure. tell your doctor right away if you have trouble emptying your bladder or have a weak urine stream. myrbetriq may affect or be affected by other medications. before taking myrbetriq, tell your doctor if you have liver or kidney problems. common side effects include increased blood pressure, common cold symptoms, urinary tract infection, constipation, diarrhea, dizziness and headache. okay, time to do this! don't let your bladder always take the lead. ask your doctor if myrbetriq is right for you. and visit myrbetriq.com to learn more. "how to win at business." step one: point decisively with the arm of your glasses. abracadabra. the stage is yours. step two: choose la quinta. the only hotel where you can redeem loyalty points for a free night-instantly and win at business.
11:58 am
11:59 am
that will do it for me. lester holt will anchor from manchester tonight. and right now alley vi velshi p up the coverage. >> i was wondering if you would give it up at all. you abo it's been fantastic. i'll pick it up from here. and were monitoring three breaking ns stories right now. first of all, a pivotal chapter in a high profile political saga, this hour nsa director on
12:00 pm
admiral mike rogers will testify on capitol hill. he's one of two top intelligence officials named in a new report on the russia collusion story alleging that president trump asked them to publicly push back against the fbi. this is the second leg in a huge day for that investigation. earlier the director of national intelligence dan coats was before the senate and john brennan before the house. both made it clear that russia interfered despite receiving warnings and objections. >> it should be clear to everyone that russia brazenly interfered in our 2016 presidential election process. by the time i left office on january 20th, i had unresolved questions in my mind as to whether or not the russians had been successful in getting u.s. persons involved in the campaign or not. >> i don't feel it's appropriate to characterize discussions and conversations with the president. >> all right.